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I was watching Hogan Knows Best, that reality show with Hulk Hogan and his family on VH1. The episode they showed was a repeat, one I kinda saw but didn't really watch in detail because of channel surfing. In the episode Hulk and his wife Linda are going through a bumpy road in their marriage and seeing a marriage counselor. Hulk said to the counselor that there have been times when they have had arguments and have said to each other that "maybe they should go their separate ways, get a divorce and just call it a day". The marriage counselor asked his wife, Linda, how did you feel when those words were said, she said, "scared".

Then Hulk said that he can't understand why is it that she, the wife, wants to do things on her own, why would she talk about something and just say "I" it leaves him and the kids out of the equation. Why would she want to go off and do things on her own, ride a horse, or anything? He can't do anything without thinking of the four of them its always "us" to him, not "I". The counselor then said to the wife, you are trying to find yourself, right? The wife, nodded and started tearing up. It's not that she doesn't love her husband or her children (who are older teens by the way), it's just that she wants to find who she is.


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That got me thinking that we women have it so difficult at times. I totally understand where she is and how she feels. It's not that she doesn't love her family, or her husband, she just wants to re-discover who she is! Most women are very devoted and dedicated to their kids and husbands, where is there time in the equation to fit "you" in? Why is it assumed that mom is happy just being mom, not that she isn't, but is she not to have any interests of her own and is she not to even take a moment for herself without feeling guilty for doing so?!

For many women, their family is their whole life, as it should be! But somewhere in the equation of marriage, kids, and living for your family, somehow, a wife's dreams get pushed aside and that might leave her feeling lost and frustrated.

Sometimes the man goes off earning a living, mom is left at home dealing with the children and life at home. Eventually as the years pass, the kids get older, they are not so in need of mom's interaction in their lives. Dad still has his interests, if mom didn't find the time to develop any of her own, she is left empty-handed. How does she pick up those pieces, what does she do next? Some women might not have a problem with this, but many do and will!

Do you think the Hulk was being selfish when he said he doesn't see why his wife wants to do anything on her own? I find that he was being that way. But not just selfish, he was scared, scared of her finding anything that will take her interest from him and in so doing, he would lose her. Some men are like that. They are afraid for their women to be more educated than them, being too attractive, so they are quite happy with their woman being out of shape, having friends they don't know. This is a reality for many couples!

The only way that a woman would want to be on her own permanently and call it quits in a relationship, that will happen only when she is tired of that relationship. When she feels she cannot go on anymore with the person she is with. However, I believe that many women just want the chance to have an interest other than the children, or the husband, or the home-life and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that! If a man feels threatened by his woman having outside interests, then they need to sit and talk about that or there won't be a moment of peace for both of them! So the Hogans did the right thing in seeking a marriage counselor! That is always a good step for any couple.

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on Oct 28, 2007

Eh, if I'm lucky enough to find a decent girl to settle down with she can do whatever the hell she wants as long as she's not cheating or anything.  Paint, write, build a hotrod...whatever makes her happy will make me happy as well.   The wrath of a woman is a scary thing indeed...

~Zoo

on Oct 28, 2007
whatever makes her happy will make me happy as well


This is a good point! Any man would want to make his woman happy by allowing her to do whatever she wanted to do of interest to her, right?! It would make for a better relationship! Only the insecure ones would object. I don't see why the Hulk should worry though, his wife loves him. The thing is though that she has been trying to make him share her interests more and he's done some of the things, others he protest at, like for example the way he dresses!! And lately she hasn't been interested in sex as much. I see that as her being unhappy with where she is in life, not necessarily being married to him, but rather, she feels she hasn't done anything to make her feel fulfilled. He doesn't see things that way!
on Oct 28, 2007

Any man would want to make his woman happy by allowing her to do whatever she wanted to do of interest to her, right?!

Right!  Well, aside from you know...screwing other men.

~Zoo

on Oct 28, 2007
aside from you know...screwing other men.


So if she has other interests, she might want to screw around on you? That's what he feels! It's not far off the mark the way other men think and that is sad!
on Oct 28, 2007
"For many women, their family is their whole life, as it should be! "

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Fundamentally disagree with this. I don't think anyone's life should focus on one thing. Doesn't matter if it's family or work. I guess if that's what someone wants to do, then I'm not going to judge them. I do think that they will be heading for a world of hurt in the future.

I realize that you address that when you wrote, "Why is it assumed that mom is happy just being mom, not that she isn't, but is she not to have any interests of her own and is she not to even take a moment for herself without feeling guilty for doing so?!".

Here is the reason that I think it's not good to focus on family/relationships to the exclusion of personal development.: at what point do you stop identifying yourself through what you do for others and define yourself by your own experiences? I think that the people on the recieving end of the caregiving get put in a difficult place. On one hand they feel grateful for the care, but as the relationship matures (or kids grow older) a feeling develops that the caregiver is living vicariously through them. In a sense, the receivers end up bearing some responsilbility for the caregiver's happiness wether this is a conscious intention or not. Resentment results. It takes the pressure away from both ends of the relationship if people are able to find a variety of outlets to express themselves and recharge themselves. I ask this basic question: How many of you would like to be the sole focus of their parent's interest, concern and happiness?

Maybe there are exceptions. Personally, I doubt it.

Also, I believe that when one enriches oneself outside of the relationship (family or partner) then one has more to give to that relatioship.There has to be a balance. If one is enriching oneself to the point that there is no time to nurture the relationship, then the whole point of the thing has been missed. The nature of this enrichment can be in a variety of forms, groups, crafts, work, volunteering, religion, friends, hobbies.

It's interesting that this topic came up. I have just beent talking to a friend who is having some family drama. It has to do with a mother focusing too much of her life through her child. Basically, her child became her social filter (which is not neccessarily negative but has a lot of potential to do so) and then is getting mad at her ex-husband when he doesn't support the social agenda she created for her child and with which he doesn't agree. I'm going to blog about this but I'm not sure how to write this yet.
on Oct 28, 2007

So if she has other interests, she might want to screw around on you?

No, screwing around is a whole interest in itself.

~Zoo

on Oct 28, 2007
It's wrong for a Mom or Dad to abandon their family in search of themselves. It's up to the person searching to make sure that's not what's going on. If you're substituting people outside your marriage for the person you married, there's a problem. If you're substituting other's kids instead of your own kids, there's a problem. It doesn't seem like it's going that far, though.

Is it wrong for a man to go after his dreams if it trumps his family responsibilities? Yes. Is it wrong for a woman to go after her dreams if it trumps her family responsibilities? Yes.
on Oct 28, 2007
I've always encouraged my wife to develop and persue her own interest! If she wants to go off out of town and go shopping or something than more power to her -and that cuts both ways. Heh, I've always thought that we stuff all the time was bullshit and just led to resentment and all the problems that causes. You gotta be your own person and maintain your own identity, you know.

Anyway, it's always worked for us!
on Oct 28, 2007
You gotta be your own person and maintain your own identity, you know.


I agree with this!

Is it wrong for a man to go after his dreams if it trumps his family responsibilities? Yes. Is it wrong for a woman to go after her dreams if it trumps her family responsibilities? Yes.


I'm half way against this but am unable to discuss in detail at the moment.


If you're substituting people outside your marriage for the person you married, there's a problem. If you're substituting other's kids instead of your own kids, there's a problem. It doesn't seem like it's going that far, though.


No it isn't. It isn't going too far when all you're trying to do is to find interests other than the kids and the hubby. I'll expunge on this later.


For many women, their family is their whole life, as it should be! "Quote feature isn't working for some reason.Fundamentally disagree with this. I don't think anyone's life should focus on one thing. Doesn't matter if it's family or work. I guess if that's what someone wants to do, then I'm not going to judge them. I do think that they will be heading for a world of hurt in the future.


I understand your views on this. I also think that it is ok if a wife focuses only on her family, especially when they are young.

You presented some good views momijiki! I have to read a book and tuck into bed my little one who should not be up this late! I'll discuss this further tomorrow!
on Oct 28, 2007
You gotta be your own person and maintain your own identity


Exactly... A marriage is a partnership formed by two individuals It is when the individuals start to feel like they don't have any individuality that problems occur.
on Oct 28, 2007
You gotta be your own person and maintain your own identity, you know.


This is what I was trying to say.

It's hard to contribute to if you have nothing of your own to give.

especially when they are young

Much larger responsibilities here then when they are older.

I also think that it is ok if a wife focuses only on her family


It's certainly not wrong.
on Oct 28, 2007
A marriage is a partnership formed by two individuals It is when the individuals start to feel like they don't have any individuality that problems occur.


Hey...that's a good one.    I'm going to commit that to memory.

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~Zoo
on Oct 28, 2007
Heya Zoo,

Thanks mate. It is what has worked and is still working for me.
on Oct 29, 2007
I'd go nuts if I couldn't get away and just be me sometimes.  I don't think its fair for a parent to leave their kids for extended periods of time, on a regular basis, just for "me" time.  But, occasionally getting away makes me appreciate my kids and my husband more.
on Oct 29, 2007
I think it's easy to lose yourself in mommydom. I think I did for a while and it was definately a mistake. I think you need to have something, even if it's something small, outside of your home and family. I started out just playing keno once a month. I do have friends that it takes a crow bar to get them out of the house without their gang. They feel guilty taking any time for themselves. I have to threaten them that I won't be their friend anymore if they don't go somewhere with me. lol.
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