We will disagree. I think he saw his election as a foregone conclusion, and that is why he campaigned so badly. (Some would say arrogantly).



Can you document this assertion? This is the first I have seen it - from the media, Obama or McCain.

Just pick up any webster's dictionary and begin reading.



I agree completely. This is part of the reason why Hillary lost, for the longest time she was treated as the inevitable candidate, and she began to believe it. Then Iowa happened and her entire campaign started to crumble, it never really fell apart but it was never the same. She lost big time on Super Tuesday and even though she was doing better afterwards there just wasn't enough momentum to carry her through. If Obama wants to win he better stop acting like he already has or else McCain is going to wipe the floor with him. Personally I want them both to lose but that isn't likely.

 

AD, I agree with your opinion, honestly!  I hope I'm not coming across as that his, Obama's race should be a trump card?!  It is a novelty because never before as one such as he, (race) been at that position) however, I, just like many of his supporters, would like this not to be the reason why so many are afraid.  I do understand the fear of "what ifs" but how can he stand a chance when he is not being given one, not being treated or looked at fairly just because of what he is?  My point in this article was to say, enough already!  We need to look at the factors that are important, not just that he is a black man running for president!

 

Redgloves, if that is the case I can't say I blame Obama either!

 

To be fair to Hillary, personally, I think she lost because she was being condenscending and petty!  Plus her husband took over her campaign half of the times!  She did what she did and she ran a good race!  I'll give her credit for that because she showed strength and charisma in the face of everything.

Obama is damn if he does and damn if he doesn't because if he doesn't show confidence, he doesn't know what he's doing, if he talks too much, he should be quiet and less assertive, if he goes overseas, he shouldn't have gone, meanwhile, before that, he hasn't been anywhere and is out of touch with the troops, etc.!  Go figure!

I think I understand your concern FS. I believe you and I have a mutual respect for each other despite any physical attributes.

I do agree that having a black or a woman president would be a great step to breaking the perception of the proverbial glass ceiling. I do however have great concern for WHO is the first one put in that position. Take the example of Nancy Pelosi. The first woman speaker of the house. It is not because she is a woman but her actions since she has taken office (and record low approval) that may hurt the appointment of another woman in that position. I see the possibility for Obama as well.

Although I would agree that it would be unfair to hold the past of Pelosi against the next woman in pursuit of the Speaker of the House position but we are beings that relate to previous experiences (although sometimes shorter than others). I do realize my concern may be 'unwarranted' but I think it exists on some level.

I think it would serve best that a much more qualified candidate be that first representative from that physical attribute.

Those are my thoughts.

This is a bill of particulars that many, many of us share. But let's think about it..when did it all really start to take shape?

One of the latest emails that is being circulated reminded me of the following and is well worth taking into consideration:

Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. And for 7 of those years,  the ecomony was doing pretty well.

As little as over one year ago consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high. Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon. The unemployment rate was 4.5%. The Dow Jones hit a record high at 14,000 +. Americans were buying cars and  taking vacations.

But some AMercians wanted change, so in 2006, they voted for a Democrat congress and yes siree, we got "change". ...the kind of change that I would venture lead to your particular bill of particulars which are like so many others....

In the past year, consumer confidence plummeted,  gasoline went to over $4.00 a gallon. Unemployment went up to 5% ....a 10% increase and  1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

 

 

Yes, there is. It's called "change" that Obama promises to bring if he is elected. How much more of this kind of change can you take is what is at issue.

 

Why should anyone support Obama?

If you like high taxes you should support him.

If you support socialism.

If you support marxism.

 

"much more qualified"....Obama should come back after he is old and gray and perhaps serve in the war somewhere....then again....maybe he should marry a presiding presidential female...but too late for that...then again, run for governor somewhere, become governor and have a father who was President before....wait..too late for that too....also too late for learning to do anything like some of the politicians before him...AD with all due respect, just me being sarcastic!  

Let's face it, Obama won't win, he doesn't stand a chance and if I were him, I would run for the hills and forget about running for President of these United States! 

 

How far back do you want to go?  Lets face it, the economy slumping has happened from time to time, and the rebound has taken place to make up for those losses.  However, this is the first time it has been such a struggle because of the boomerang effects that has finally caught up to our great President, and to the people who have made really large mistakes! 

 

In essence it is going to be change or more of the same as McCain promises, which would you rather have?  Of course, no need to answer that one!

 

Like I said above....see my response to Adventure Dude!

That is the "Odacity of Hope" ... isn't it? I feel the same way as you do. Why in the world take all that abuse and nonsense???? for what? ... people get the government they deserve .... this is a very true statement.

What did they get by electing a moron twice? i hope they are happy ... and it seems that a lot of them ARE happy ..

I dont know what they are happy about ... but what do I know?.

The country is falling apart in all international and domestic areas and the income of everyone except 0.1% is down and getting worse and we still face the same terror as in 2001 ... and still people like that ...  and they are defending it !!!!!!!!!!so why bother ...

I guess that is the difference between us and Obama. If he wins it will be the miracle of the century. ....

Then again.... didnt we go to the moon and came back? ... several times no less??!!!

nothing the people of this country can't do if they really want to. If they dont ... then they deserve what they get.

If you like high taxes for the rich only.
If you support egalitarianisn.
If you support an inventive economy.

What is an "inventive" economy?

You just make it up?  

Right. That means that since I work full time I have to pay a greater share of my money to the government than those who have more free time.



You can only EITHER support egalitarianism OR high taxes for the rich only.

Any law that contains "for [some group] only" is not egalitarian.

I support egalitarianism.




I don't. Whatever it is, I am against it until somebody can explain what it is, why it would work, and how we can reform the current economy into it without too much trouble.

I realize the sarcasm but FS can you tell me what experience does he have that suggests he should be the commander and chief operating officer of the United States?

The previous 3 presidents all had experience of being the Governor of an entire state. Please don't make the mistake that this is the limitation for 'criteria' but being in such a leadership position does call one to recognize 'related' experience.

Obama is currently working on his 3rd year in the Senate. The only other president to have less than 5 years in the senate (since 1900's) and become president was Richard Nixon (3 years also). Where they separate is Nixon served as an US Navy lieutenant commander in the Pacific during World War II. Again not saying serving in the military is the limitation for 'criteria/qualification' but being that the President is also responsible for the military this would be 'related' experience.

FS, can you give me any criteria that would suggest that Obama has 'related' experience for the position that he is applying for?



I think he does stand a chance or else I wouldn't have taken the time to express my view. My concern (until shown otherwise) is that people are trying to put someone who 'might' be equivalent to that of a cashier in charge of the whole grocery store.

Of Course IMO.

Hope you are well (sincerely).

How does Obama's plan of egalitarianism differ from that of socialism?

Amen to that!  The Amendments voted for the people who are chosen,...it is all guess work after all, and we can only cross our fingers and pray for what we hope the outcome we want!

 

 

And I thank you for sharing your views!    Most of the men who have been President, were Governors, I guess this disqualifies Obama, anyone else but Obama, this is a one-dimentional way of thinking.  

 

Other than being a US citizen born in the United States of America and over the age of requirement?

 

Other than having the qualities to be a great leader, sound judgement, being able to make decisions, the right ones, (and as we all know, half of the time, most of the Presidents in power, do not make the right decisions - thus this is not necessarily a requirement I guess!). 

 

As for "related" experience, it is not a requirement that political experience makes you a good President, it does help, and in that case, Senator Obama may just be a Junior Senator in the US Senate, however, prior to that he was a Senator for the State of Illinois for about 8 years, he was a lawyer. 

 

You know what else, Obama exudes the confidence & eloquence that we need in our leadership, not fumbling and bumbling. He also seems to have a vision of where our country could be, that others don't seem to see. But so many of his naysayers consider this to be a bad trait, too cocky and definitely talks too much....more good qualities for a great leader!lol!

 

Technically,  if experience is really what the people are looking for, then either Guiliani, Romney or Huckabee should have been the frontrunner! 

You can peruse this website to get more details on the "related" experience of Barack Obama.