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Published on August 2, 2008 By foreverserenity In Politics

It is amazing to me the way some people think.  They cry that racism is being thrown about by some people (especially blacks), when they themselves are doing the very same thing.  They cry that the only reason why blacks do support Obama, is because he is in fact, black! 

 


Is there any truth to the fact that blacks do support Obama, yes, there is.  If he is the candidate that they want to support, why shouldn't they support him?  If he is the candidate in the political party they support, is it so wrong to be behind the candidate they believe in?

 

I guess they should switch party affiliations just because so many don't believe in anything this candidate, Obama, stands for, and what they the people who support the Republican candidate do, and are crying foul, believe in!

 

Sure, Obama being black is a trump card, he is different, never has this happened before in our country, so why not?!  This would be the reasons why so many of Obama's supporters, support him right?  To coin a phrase, we are like sheep!

 

Bring me arguments about the state of our country and what is going on in our country, and why there should be changes made so that WE ALL can live a better life and whether are not we have to worry about ALL THAT WE HAVE ALL WORKED SO HARD FOR OVER THE YEARS is all going down the toilet!    

 

Don't bring me crap shoot arguments whining about the fact that a candidate is Black, and that he loves to bring this information up himself,  and that all he seems to do is say that he is black, when this fact is quite obvious to EVERYONE!  What the freck is the really issue here?  The fact that so many can't get over the fact that he is the one chosen as the candidate to represent the Democratic party, and he happens to be black?

 

Or, the fact that the American people are tired of the ruling government and all the crap that they have done over the years that has begun to affect our country?  So they want change, and they will have it!  Are you going to be effective in your citizenship and go out there and also let yourself be heard, or are you going to stay out of it just because "Obama will get everyone's vote because HE IS BLACK and White America wants to prove that they are not racist and will also vote for him and that is the only reason why they will vote for him"? 

 

You who believe such crap are doing a disservice to yourself and to your fellow Americans!  It is bullshit crap like this that makes us all look bad and it is time to get up off of the toilet or take a shit and do or say something more constructive!  Not come at me with crappy arguments that is riddled with holes!

 

For God's sake wake up people!  Of course we all will notice that Obama is Black, just the same that we all notice that McCain is so much older and looks like a hard wind would blow him over!  Now was that not me being discriminative about McSame...I mean, McCain's age?! [and wans't that me being rude and disrespectful in calling him McSame?!]  We all can do it, we just chose to take the higher road and be respectful!

 

I am worried about the economy, the fact that gas prices are so high, that the boomerang effects from that has cost jobs, higher prices in the supermarkets, housing slumps all over!  People are out there hanging on to their life and livihood for dear life, and some of you only have stupid arguments to insult our intelligence! 

 

Oh GROW UP!


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on Aug 06, 2008

I'm having trouble pasting th elink AD, sorry about that!

on Aug 06, 2008
Inventive economy is one that is not content with relying on lockstep reactions, such as YES, YES, by all means DRILL, drill for more oil! B&S and ilk bailouts, the free market as though it were really free despite its risks. Inventive economy is an approach to a better world of goods and services for those denied material gain.
on Aug 07, 2008

Other than having the qualities to be a great leader, sound judgement, being able to make decisions


Can you tell me where Obama has shown to have the qualities to be a great leader?

Can you give me example is his sound judgement?

And, finally, can you point me to one of Obama's decisions?

on Aug 07, 2008
Inventive economy is an approach to a better world of goods and services for those denied material gain.


So if I'm understanding you correctly "Inventive Economy" is essentially socialism. Sorry but I just can't get behind that as Socialism (and it's partner Communism) has been proven not to work (Cuba, USSR, etc).
on Aug 07, 2008
What is an "inventive" economy?You just make it up?  


There does seem to be a lot of "inventive" economies around.
on Aug 07, 2008
Inventive economy is an approach to a better world of goods and services for those denied material gain.


So if I'm understanding you correctly "Inventive Economy" is essentially socialism


I was going to reply until I saw that El-Duderino had scooped me again.
on Aug 07, 2008
And I thank you for sharing your views! Most of the men who have been President, were Governors, I guess this disqualifies Obama, anyone else but Obama, this is a one-dimentional way of thinking.


On the contrary! With regard to being a governor I'm concerned about McCain on the same level. No experience.

Other than having the qualities to be a great leader, sound judgement, being able to make decisions, the right ones, (and as we all know, half of the time, most of the Presidents in power, do not make the right decisions - thus this is not necessarily a requirement I guess!).


This is highly a subjective statement and would constitute as opinion. I'm looking for examples or objective items that support the notion he has qualities to be a 'great leader' shows 'sound judgment' when making decisions.

As for "related" experience, it is not a requirement that political experience makes you a good President, it does help, and in that case, Senator Obama may just be a Junior Senator in the US Senate, however, prior to that he was a Senator for the State of Illinois for about 8 years, he was a lawyer.


Did anything significant come from his 8 years being an Illinois senator and 3 years in the US Senate?

You know what else, Obama exudes the confidence & eloquence that we need in our leadership, not fumbling and bumbling. He also seems to have a vision of where our country could be, that others don't seem to see. But so many of his naysayers consider this to be a bad trait, too cocky and definitely talks too much....more good qualities for a great leader!lol!


yes, no fumbling and bumbling?

There is a long list that goes against this FS.
Give a child an Breathalyzer or inhalator for a treatable illness like asthma.
Israel is a strong friend to Israel. (just for short starters)

Go back and look at all the speeches you are holding in your mind. Which one's did he have a teleprompter or read a prepared speech compared to the times things were 'off the cuff' so to speak? During the times of 'off the cuff' there are many flubs and stutters (during his recent international trip I think it was in Jordan where he stuttered for a remarkable period of time)!

Two things regarding the vision:
First of all I will agree he does seem to have a vision. A Marxist one and if you support Marxism/Socialism then this is the vision for you and the country.
Second, he is lying when saying that his Marxist views are the 'great traditional values' of the country.

Technically, if experience is really what the people are looking for, then either Guiliani, Romney or Huckabee should have been the frontrunner!


Very TRUE. I often wonder why states that allow independents to vote in primaries are allowed to play such an influential role in choosing a candidate in the early primaries. IMO, McCain wouldn't have had a chance and would have been dealt a devastating blow in the beginning. Again JMO.

I'm having trouble pasting th elink AD, sorry about that!


just type the address out and I'll be happy to just copy and paste it.


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FS, thank you for this non-abrasive discussion.

on Aug 07, 2008
Inventive economy is one that is not content with relying on lockstep reactions, such as YES, YES, by all means DRILL, drill for more oil! B&S and ilk bailouts, the free market as though it were really free despite its risks. Inventive economy is an approach to a better world of goods and services for those denied material gain.


What exactly does B&S stand for?

Regarding ilk bailouts:
This in and of itself maybe a contradiction? If you are against ilk bailouts then you cannot be for a socialist approach! Let's take a look at some recent events. Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, and Country Homes lending. All THREE of these companies had pressure applied to them by the government to give out the Subprime loans.

These subprime loans in and of them self were very high risk. When they finally came back and bit the CRAPOLA out of Freddie and Fannie the government had reverse pressure to bail them out since they were responsible from the pressure to give such loans.

The two work together (socialism/"inventive economy and ilk bailouts).
on Aug 07, 2008
This in and of itself maybe a contradiction? If you are against ilk bailouts then you cannot be for a socialist approach!


This is an excellent point. The way to think of bailouts is a very large welfare program for businesses instead of people. If you are against bailouts then you are against welfare, which is very anti-socialism.
on Aug 07, 2008

 

I'm looking for examples or objective items that support the notion he has qualities to be a 'great leader' shows 'sound judgment' when making decisions.

Can you tell me where Obama has shown to have the qualities to be a great leader? Can you give me example is his sound judgement? And, finally, can you point me to one of Obama's decisions?

AD, I wished I had written that site down, but it was late in the evening, almost midnight and Mozilla, that I use at home, has not been customized yet so I cannot copy and paste as I do at work (now) and at the moment, searching for it is going to be too much time and I have to run out of here in five mins.   However,  you and Leauki are asking for examples, that page had them, things he achieved during his time in Illinois and his involvement with the diffent organizations.  Google it, I am not ashamed to say that is what I did because I don't keep information like that memorize! [I'm talking my 43 year old brain that is already crap filled with kids, work, family and other stuff that are more pressing! ]

I also have a feeling that no matter what my answers are, no matter if I write something that would present my point, it wouldn't be enough (Leuki) so I won't bother to go down that road.  However, you can be a doll and find the infor and let us see, or you can be less of a doll and continue to rub your points home of not being able to find anything to substantiate what I am saying.

Either way, we will continue on!

 

FS, thank you for this non-abrasive discussion.

Hey Dude, anytime! You are among the few around here I enjoy a good debate with!

 

I was going to reply until I saw that El-Duderino had scooped me again.
 

Newsflash!  The Doc has been scooped! lol

on Aug 08, 2008
I also have a feeling that no matter what my answers are, no matter if I write something that would present my point, it wouldn't be enough (Leuki) so I won't bother to go down that road. However, you can be a doll and find the infor and let us see, or you can be less of a doll and continue to rub your points home of not being able to find anything to substantiate what I am saying.


FS, I have looked and researched Obama. There are a few things that appear to be beneficial to the points that you are making about him.

I'm not trying to "rub my points home" to you but rather progress logically through your understanding of why you support a candidate (same applies to McCain). This has more to do with your reasoning for supporting Obama (or for any candidate) and objective evidence for that support. I have been duped by too many people for following them 'blindly.'

One of which I am currently LIVID WITH (yeah that's you Ken Salazar D-CO:Political whore!). But I digress....

I don't want you to experience the same anguish as I do with Salazar. I now realize how important it is to do our research on candidates.

I hope you understand.
[I'm talking my 43 year old brain that is already crap filled with kids, work, family and other stuff that are more pressing! ]


But you love EVERY bit of it!

Hey Dude, anytime! You are among the few around here I enjoy a good debate with!


Likewise
on Aug 08, 2008

Can you tell me where Obama has shown to have the qualities to be a great leader?

Can you give me example is his sound judgement?

And, finally, can you point me to one of Obama's decisions?

Anybody? 

on Aug 08, 2008

I'm not trying to "rub my points home"

Actually this was aimed at someone else!

 

Can you tell me where Obama has shown to have the qualities to be a great leader? Can you give me example is his sound judgement? And, finally, can you point me to one of Obama's decisions? Anybody?

ID I'm sure someone will bite if they so incline!  Didn't we discuss that already though?

on Aug 08, 2008
Actually this was aimed at someone else!


Ok, well, have a wonderful weekend!

I'm going CAMPING! Wo0T!
on Aug 09, 2008

I'm going CAMPING! Wo0T!

Enjoy!

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