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The gap between generations
Published on August 24, 2005 By foreverserenity In Internet
There seems to be a great divide in our technology friendly world. What, you might ask am I talking about now? I’m talking about that chasm that is opening up between my generation (the 30 and over crowd) and Generation “X” and Generation “Now”.

That penchant for our younger folks to just Google anything they want to learn about (and us too). Not too many folks read to obtain information anymore. Mention a word, a phrase or a name it’s off to Googleland to find out any and all information we may need.

While I’m not saying the Internet is bad, not at all! I for one applaud the use of the Internet and what it has done for humankind all over! What worries me is with the “X” and the “Now” generations, when it comes to learning and connecting with the history of any given subject and acquiring and being able to analyze information about a particular subject, they don’t know how to do that.

How do they develop the necessary skills that will teach them how to do research and explore the different methods and ideas on what to do to get the information they need other than going on the Internet? Does anyone remember Microfiche? Or those big ole books called Encyclopedias? Or Microfilm? Or Catalogs?

The other day I gave my son a lesson on how to search for something at the Library. He was shocked to learn that going on the Internet is not the only way to obtain information. The Library has a wide assortment of ways for you to obtain information. They do have computers and Internet access because they have to get with the times, i.e., with what everyone else is doing.

However, before computers there were a Reference section, Catalogs, and Microfiches or Microfilms searches available (although there are no more at least at our branch library). They do have another kind of search too. You can sit at this antiquated computer-looking type machine that has a telephone attached and speak to someone on the other end. You see the person you’re speaking to and they see you!

What I’m trying to get at though is that many students these days are finding the quickest route in doing their assignments. They cut and paste information from the Internet. Never mind that sometimes this may lead to plagiarism but how do they learn about a particular subject if this is all they do? Can they give thorough and accurate information on what they have done? Or correctly list the source of their information without siting a webpage?

What about that thirst for learning and the knowledge gain because of the paper you have to write on any subject that you might be assigned. You become so enrapt by the information that you’ve read about. You analyze and ask questions of your parents, teacher or peers. You learn to develop strategies in putting together a presentation for your teacher and are able to tell the history of what you’re seeking. You learn how to put sentences together to make an essay, to write knowledgeably about a topic. You learn new words, how to spell them and learn what they mean. You learn a lot by using other methods to do your research and not only by using the Internet.

While using the Internet is very helpful and might be a quicker way find what you seek (and there’s nothing wrong with that). However, let’s not forget that there are books out there to be read, information to be analyzed and skills to be learned if we take the time to do it.

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on Aug 29, 2005
How about the original 13 colonies in order of approval of the Constitution?


Yea right.......I can Google it!


In addition to using Google as a crutch, you have the attitude that if it's not online, then it must not be worth knowing.


This belief is true of some people

Most people I went to college with NEVER set foot in the library.

Yes, the important thing is to know HOW to get information, not necessarily to have a lot of it memorized, but there are many basic skills that are being lost due to our dependence on technology.


This is what I'm talking about too. Good inferences!


and are completely missing the fact that some knowledge, some memorization is unavoidable and can't (or at least shouldn't) be computerized.


Yes, some memorizations is unavoidable.


Heck I run to the internet too as a quick look up on something. But I have already had the basics when it comes to analyzing and knowing where else to go. Most adults in my generation already know this because we didn't have the internet and computers when we were in grade school so we had to learn and do everything the "hard" way.

And one other thing... it's unfortunate that too many of our children are being taught by "memorization" of whatever it is they are learning. Sometimes there are teachers out there who are from the Generation X and teach in this format which is not good for their students.
on Aug 29, 2005
it's unfortunate that too many of our children are being taught by "memorization" of whatever it is they are learning. Sometimes there are teachers out there who are from the Generation X and teach in this format which is not good for their students.


nearly all public school teachers are now compelled to teach that way in order to ensure their students are able to pass the stupid tests required by no child left behind.
on Aug 29, 2005
Good history or science resources are only found in academic journals, or history books that most of the time aren't online at all.


check out soople.com and its scholarly document (or somethin like that) search. the documents are there. just not always accessible for free.

Most people I went to college with NEVER set foot in the library.


they were engineering majors possibly?

as a humanities student at purdue, i profited greatly by going to the library for such people. and i learned a lot more about stuff like the principles of radiant heating than any human should ever have to know.
on Aug 29, 2005
Most people I know these days only go to the Library because they have no internet connection.
on Aug 29, 2005
...or, go to the library to have an internet connection (ie, to Google)...
on Aug 29, 2005

How about the original 13 colonies in order of approval of the Constitution?

I'm not an American...

on Aug 29, 2005
Complete dependence on computer or calculators undermines the last two parts of the process.


Exactly.....and today's society is in danger of losing fundamental skills because, in some instances, the young and not so young are indoctinated into believing a dependence on the never ending advancement of technology is inevitable, if not essential. Sadly, the subscribers to this misconception become the disabled in the event of power outtages and technical problems that shut down the only tools with which they have experience.

Heck I run to the internet too as a quick look up on something. But I have already had the basics when it comes to analyzing and knowing where else to go. Most adults in my generation already know this because we didn't have the internet and computers when we were in grade school so we had to learn and do everything the "hard" way.


I too look things up on the internet, and I'm certainly grateful for the resources that enable it, but I still prefer to source some things the old fashioned way. For instance, I'd rather go to my local music store to satisfy my need for information and music, etc. I never ever download music or related items because I've always preferred the hands on feel of my CD collection and original music paraphanalia. Luckily for myself and other customers, the proprieter is an old fashioned type of guy who keeps a vast library of relevant information on paper or in his head, so when an enquiry is made, there's a human and personal touch that no computer can deliver.

Another aspect I see, in this computerised age, is the rapidly diminishing art of conversation. I have come across so many young people who find it difficult to communicate in complete sentences, let alone 2 or 3 strung together, and replying to them with more than the barest minimum of words is too often met with: "Yeah, yeah, yeah....I know aaaall o' this." Well of course, it was googled...even things only you would know (so-say). Sadly, amongst many of the young today, patience for the spoken word is rapidy disappearing because information is more rapidy perceived and absorbed visually from a computer screen. Hence, we have spoken language being condensed to minimalistic utterances, the written word abbreviated to 'leet'...... However, this is not the fault of modern technology, rather its abuse by those who have become dependant on its convenience, and therefore lazy.
on Aug 30, 2005
the rapidly diminishing art of conversation. I have come across so many young people who find it difficult to communicate in complete sentences, let alone 2 or 3 strung together, and replying to them with more than the barest minimum of words is too often met with: "Yeah, yeah, yeah....I know aaaall o' this."


i'd be willing to bet the first person who said this was a member of the first generation of speaking humans.
on Aug 30, 2005
i'd be willing to bet the first person who said this was a member of the first generation of speaking humans.


And if we're not careful, we might just be the last generation of speaking humans.....given the rapid advancement of abbreviated grunts and syllables that are commonly appearing as substitutes for speech within a large proportion of young people today. If I were a teacher, I would mark any paper that bastardised the English language with the lowest grade possible to disuade the practice. With pressure to achieve straight A's, students would soon abandon the practice to avoid straight X's......X being no grade at all.
on Aug 30, 2005
nearly all public school teachers are now compelled to teach that way in order to ensure their students are able to pass the stupid tests required by no child left behind.


Yes I know and this is unfortunate. I don't think the tests are stupid however I do think the format and how they go about it needs revising.


Most people I know these days only go to the Library because they have no internet connection.



or, go to the library to have an internet connection (ie, to Google)...


Haha, yes, you're both right about that too!!
on Aug 30, 2005

How about the original 13 colonies in order of approval of the Constitution?


Yea right.......I can Google it!

I dont have to.  Dale Carnegie taught that one almost 30 years ago, and I still remember it.

on Aug 30, 2005
I'm not an American


That's ok, we forgive you!


and today's society is in danger of losing fundamental skills because, in some instances, the young and not so young are indoctinated into believing a dependence on the never ending advancement of technology is inevitable, if not essential. Sadly, the subscribers to this misconception become the disabled in the event of power outtages and technical problems that shut down the only tools with which they have experience.


Ditto!!

For instance, I'd rather go to my local music store to satisfy my need for information and music, etc. I never ever download music or related items because I've always preferred the hands on feel of my CD collection and original music paraphanalia. Luckily for myself and other customers, the proprieter is an old fashioned type of guy who keeps a vast library of relevant information on paper or in his head, so when an enquiry is made, there's a human and personal touch that no computer can deliver.


This is great. And a human touch is always so needed! Give me human any day over something being totally automated! I love technology so this is not a bash technology blog or response....but having contact with another person is always better in my book!

Another aspect I see, in this computerised age, is the rapidly diminishing art of conversation. I have come across so many young people who find it difficult to communicate in complete sentences, let alone 2 or 3 strung together, and replying to them with more than the barest minimum of words is too often met with: "Yeah, yeah, yeah....I know aaaall o' this." Well of course, it was googled...even things only you would know (so-say). Sadly, amongst many of the young today, patience for the spoken word is rapidy disappearing because information is more rapidy perceived and absorbed visually from a computer screen. Hence, we have spoken language being condensed to minimalistic utterances, the written word abbreviated to 'leet'...... However, this is not the fault of modern technology, rather its abuse by those who have become dependant on its convenience, and therefore lazy.


Ditto on this too Starkers! Some very good points!


i'd be willing to bet the first person who said this was a member of the first generation of speaking humans.



And if we're not careful, we might just be the last generation of speaking humans.....given the rapid advancement of abbreviated grunts and syllables that are commonly appearing as substitutes for speech within a large proportion of young people today.


I'll bet! Remember the idiots who put Beavis and Butthead on television! They became a popular icon to a lot of people. While I'm a lover of animation (claymation, animae, etc.) and such I found these two way off and was glad the show got canceled.
on Aug 30, 2005
I dont have to. Dale Carnegie taught that one almost 30 years ago, and I still remember it.


Good for you Doc! That's quite a memory you have there! I was taught some American history in high school in Jamaica. Our history classes at that time had a lot to do with our own history and that of the Caribbean.
on Aug 31, 2005
'll bet! Remember the idiots who put Beavis and Butthead on television! They became a popular icon to a lot of people



Once upon a time we had fictional heroes who stood for honour, justice and doing the right thing.....these days we have Beavis and Butthead, Bart and Homer Simpson. No wonder today's values have taken a nose dive into chaos and anarchy, contempt and disrespect.

If the respective programs were horses, you'd send 'em to the knacker-yard and turn them into something useful
on Aug 31, 2005
Homer Simpson


i liked 'day of the locust' dammit

No wonder today's values have taken a nose dive into chaos and anarchy, contempt and disrespect


i'm sure there were people who found your raccoon coat, goldfish swallowing and 'twenty-three skiddoo' just as deplorable.
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